Stolen Podcast

From Blueprint to Action: Turning a Scam Prevention Strategy Into Policy (Kate Griffin)

In this episode, host Erin West sits down with Kate Griffin of the Aspen Institute's Financial Security Program to unpack how she brought together 80 organizations — from banks to tech companies to nonprofits — to build the first-ever national blueprint for fighting scams. Kate walks through how the project came together, the four key focus areas the task force identified (data sharing, law enforcement collaboration, consumer awareness, and measuring the problem), and why getting competitors and cross-sector players to agree on anything is harder than it sounds. She also shares what's next: Aspen's new Scam Prevention Initiative, aimed at turning that 70-page strategy into real, actionable change — including work already underway with Congress, where dozens of bipartisan bills have been introduced this session alone. This conversation offers a rare look behind the scenes at the slow, often invisible work of building consensus on one of the biggest financial crimes of our time. Episode notes: https://operationshamrock.org/podcast/stolen
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From Casino Scam Compounds to Digital Arrests: A 30-Year Fraud Fighter's Warning (Frank McKenna)

Episode 61: Erin West connects with Frank McKenna, a 30-year fraud-consulting veteran and founder of Point Predictive, who has built four separate industry data consortiums — including efforts that now touch credit card, mortgage, ATM, and auto-lending fraud.
McKenna shares how simple, incremental data-sharing agreements can disrupt fraud rings that are already collaborating freely on platforms like Telegram. The conversation moves from the origins of Southeast Asian scam compounds to how generative AI is transforming everything from romance scams to "digital arrest" extortion schemes, and closes with McKenna's prediction that fraud-fighting careers are about to boom, not disappear.
 
Episode notes and video: https://operationshamrock.org/podcast/stolen
 
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"I Thought LinkedIn Was Safe": How a Utah Woman Lost $850,000 in a Scam

Episode 60: Anola Johnson thought LinkedIn was the one platform safe from scammers — professional, vetted, serious. A connection request two days after a work trip to Paris changed that. Over the following months, a charming "oil rig engineer" supposedly stationed in Abu Dhabi convinced her to wire money again and again: $1.4 million to a supplier in Singapore, $180,000 more days later, and a $350,000 home equity loan she drained over multiple trips to her bank.
By the time it was over, Anola had lost $850,000 — and her job. She joins former prosecutor Erin West to explain how it happened, why she refuses to fit the "little old lady" scam-victim stereotype, and how she's turned her story into testimony before the Utah legislature and her own podcast, Romance Scam Rebellion.
 
Episode notes and video: https://operationshamrock.org/podcast/stolen
 
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The Boat Into Myanmar: Mariana van Zeller Inside the Scam Compounds Nobody Sees

Episode 59: Her heart stopped when Mariana van Zeller climbed into a boat to cross into Myanmar. In this episode of Stolen, Erin West sits down with the National Geographic journalist behind Trafficked to talk about the two minutes that separate Thailand from Shwe Kokko — the gleaming, casino-lit city that a Chinese crime syndicate built on forced labor and pig butchering scams.
Mariana describes the dog-and-pony tour, the anti-trafficking posters hung for show, the karaoke night with a criminal gang, and the moment she realized the scammers behind the keyboards were as trapped as the victims they targeted.
Mariana van Zeller and Erin West are two women who've walked the same ground investigating transnational organized crime, money laundering, and the journalism crisis that's keeping the world's largest modern enslavement operation in the dark.
 
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Investment Scam Exposed: A Victim’s Journey of Fraud and Frustration

Episode 58: Despite his careful research and skepticism, scammers defrauded Syd of $50,000. Next came the challenge of dealing with law enforcement.
Erin West sits down with a former securities industry professional who lost more than $50,000 to a technically sophisticated crypto investment fraud. Syd’s story isn’t one of carelessness; he had identified several earlier scam pitches before one — built over months on Facebook Messenger and dressed up in legitimate terms like “automated market making” — finally succeeded. In his conversation with Stolen, he traces his methodical research, the moment the scheme unraveled, and the maze of law-enforcement dead ends that followed.
Episode notes and video: https://operationshamrock.org/podcast/stolen
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SOLUTIONS: One Thing AI Can't Fake — How Location Became the New Identity (Andre Ferraz -- Incognia)

Episode 57: A scammer can counterfeit your face, your voice, and your documents. What they can't fake is where your phone actually goes. That's the solution André Ferraz built. The founder of Incognia joins Erin to explain how physical-world behavior — precise to eight feet, accurate enough to tell one apartment from another in a high-rise — became a living identity that AI can't counterfeit.
They get into the tradecraft it defeats: wiping an iPhone in 30 seconds to spin up a new identity, one fraudster opening 60,000 accounts in a single week, hundreds of devices running out of one room. André also walks through Incognia's 2026 report on mule account handovers and why the people laundering scam money will share their location, then spoof it — only to get caught operating from sanctioned countries.
 
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How Smart People Get Scammed: Dr. Martina Dove Explains Kirsty's Case

Episode 56: What happens when a romance scam survivor sits down with the scientist who can explain exactly what was done to her?
Last week you heard Kirsty's story. This week, Erin brings her together with Dr. Martina Dove, a fraud psychology expert, to review the scam, step by step. The verdict is unsettling: Today's scammers don't simply mirror you. They study you, find the wounds you've spent years hiding, and use them as the way in.
Kirsty had survived 16 years of coercive control; the scammer turned that history into a weapon. Dr. Dove provides a clear-eyed look at how manipulation actually works, why intelligence is no protection, and why the people around a victim matter more than anyone wants to admit.
 
Episode notes and video: https://operationshamrock.org/podcast/stolen
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Romance Fraud: One Woman’s Journey from Target to Survivor (Kirsty)

Episode 55: A six-month romance fraud dismantled Kirsty’s finances, her sense of self, and nearly her life.
In this deeply moving episode, Erin West speaks with Kirsty Guest — a single mother of four from the UK — about the romance fraud and psychological manipulation that upended life as she knew it. 
Kirsty’s story is not a cautionary tale about carelessness. She is a businesswoman, a devoted parent, and a survivor of domestic abuse. And she was deliberately targeted by a criminal who studied her vulnerabilities and exploited them with the patience and precision of a professional.
If her story sounds familiar — whether it happened to you, someone you love, or someone you work with — know that you are not alone. It was not your fault. 
“Targets of fraud need to know that they feel they are safe, that they are not alone, and that someone will listen without saying, “How could you fall for such a thing?” — Kirsty Guest
 
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How Crypto, the Dark Web, and Fentanyl Deaths Are Connected (Keven Hendricks)

Episode 54: Keven Hendricks, a 20-year law enforcement veteran, pulls back the curtain on the dark web and the connections with cybercrime and drug sales.
“Cryptocurrency, whether you like it or not, is a means of moving wealth that is being used by bad guys.” — Keven Hendricks
Erin West sits down with Keven Hendricks — 20-year law enforcement veteran, former task force officer with both the FBI and DEA, and expert in dark web investigations, cryptocurrency, and privacy coins. What started as a crash course in Bitcoin and illicit online markets in 2014 became a career-defining passion. Keven has spent the years since pushing law enforcement to catch up to the criminals it is trying to stop.
Four Things You'll Learn about the Dark Web
The dark web isn’t what you think — and that misunderstanding is deadly.
Prosecutors and chiefs are the missing link in fighting cybercrime.
Overdose deaths are crime scenes, not medical events.
Pull the thread far enough and the crimes are all connected.
 
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You Can’t Believe Your Eyes: The Deepfake Crisis (Carl Bogan)

Episode 53: Who knew that creating a deepfake video that merged Will Smith and Cardi B into one person would become a viral success? Who knew that the creator of that video would now be focused on stopping the criminal use of the same technology?
Now you can be anybody you want to be. You can be Beyoncé at a concert. You can be skydiving as an alligator. — Carl Bogan on the simplicity of deepfake technology
Carl Bogan joins Erin to talk about the evolution of deepfakes — from his pioneering viral video to today’s need to protect businesses and consumers from video impersonation in scams and fraud.
Carl is the visual effects pioneer who created the original viral deepfake in 2019 and has since seen his invention weaponized at scale. What began as a technical experiment to solve a startup's content problem became a two-decade reckoning with tech that’s now available to anyone with a phone and an internet connection.
You don’t give a baby a knife. We’re a bunch of babies running around with knives. — Carl Bogan
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